For example zugferd pdf invoices have embedded json files. I got a new used 682 gold and i am just curious what year it is. Need help with proof marks british militaria forums. Arms previously proved and bearing apparently valid proof marks are deemed unproved if the barrels have been enlarged in the bore beyond certain defined limits or, if the barrel or action has been materially weakened in other respect. Was it built and proofed for black or smokeless powder. Proof marks ballistics bev fitchetts guns magazine. Markings on gun barrels and other gun components that indicate the level of pressure, calibre and standards that a weapon is fit for in service the drawings vary in style due to differences in the original information. The proof and testing of firearms birmingham gun barrel. Gamebore black gold is a 70mm cartridge and goes up to 40g which is greater than the old 1 14oz proof load. Leave unchanged stet intercolor consortium often added to cancel an instruction wrongly requested. The barrel housing is marked with the crown over np, again from london, as a proof for smokeless powder. German, suhl 1st black powder proof for smooth bored barrels since 1950 e. Before one start with the technical details, one must understand somewhat of the history of the way in which shotguns have been proofed in modern times. The 1892s dominate and the model 1894s are relatively dif.
Pistols that received british proofs prior to being disposed of in the 1950s, should have matching proofs on the slide, receiver frame, and barrel. It is also marked rfv104 reichs finanz verwaltung 104, is this the german finance ministry from the weimar republic. He founded his firm in 1949, and pioneered the use of stampings and investment castings in us arms production. Files can be embedded attached to the pdf so that they stay with the pdf. Rules, regulations and scales, birmingham proof house. Sample photos of their layouts are at the bottom of the page. The book of the pistol and revolver is also available to purchase in print it is unfortunate from the point of view of history that weapons were not marked with a date letter as is customary with silver hallmarks, but the proofmarks stamped upon arms give no indication of the period of proof. The problem is i cant find what the proof marks mean,i have looked on the net but have no luck,none of the proof marks my rifle has are anywhere.
We have provided you with this information in an attempt to clear up some wrong information that we have found on this subject. The present law on the subject is to be found in the gun barrel proof acts 1868, 1950 and 1978 and various rules of proof, but particularly those of 1925, 1954, 1986 and 2006 when the metric system of measurement was introduced. If these markings are on the left side of the grip frame, there should also be a 3 or 4 number stamping which indicates the month and year the refinishing was. It is the perfect reference for discerning collectors to take with them to gun shows and auctions.
Proof marks can be a very valuable aid to the forensic firearms investigator as. Many old guns may have been reproved once or more, often in a different proof house from the original one. As to the placement of proof house symbols, it depends upon the model of gun, and the level of embellishment, the latter often dictating a discrete location on the underside of the barrel or frame on highly engraved examples. This is no assurance however, that all components of the guns where made in germany, the gun making center in liege in belgium was known for the good quality of. The first is the provisional gardone proof, consisting of a star sur. Model 1892 and 1894 carbines with canadian proof marks. The same model gun, an 1860 army for example, man ufactured in italy and sold by uberti or f. Gun barrel and receiver codes, markings and proof marks. Luger proofacceptance mark identification guide 18981945 this is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. It should be borne in mind that all countries have made changes in their proof marks from time to time and it is not practical to include within these pages all the proof marks that have been used over many years. Previous reciprocal agreement continues with the republic of ireland as it is not a member of the c. Proof marks are stamps applied to various parts of a weapon during and after manufacture to show that the weapon is safe for use with the ammunition for which it was designed in england, the london and birmingham proof houses were established in 1637 and 18, respectively by royal charter to protect the public from the sale of unsafe weapons. Most improvised weapons have no serial numbers or other markings used.
International commission for the proof of small arms. Proof marks 2403 the proof marks shown below will assist in determining nationality of manufacturers when no other markings are evident. Firearms having no wp proof on the receiver but have affixed barrels with wp proof mark, in addition to the oval p would signify that while it is an older receiver, the barrel was replaced after 1905 by someone outside the winchester repair shop. Proof marks comparing the proof marks on your gun to this chart may help you determine where and when your gun was made, including guns where no other markings are evident. Proof marks 2357 the proof marks shown below will assist in determining nationality of manufacturers when no other markings are evident. Information courtesy of the blue book of gun values by s. Alteration to or the forging of proof marks is a still more serious offence. This is a recording of a workshop given at the 2014 afte association of firearm and toolmark examiners conference in seattle, on the subject of proof marks and other identifying marks on. Originally posted by xb40 if i read the article correctly, the mastershop built the gun, proof tests the barrel, reassembles the gun, test fires on. Generally these are v, p, eagle head, in slight variations. Reasons for gun barrel proof gun barrel proof, or proof testing of firearms and the ammunition that is used in them is compulsory in the uk.
British proof marks proof mark circa proof house type of proof and gun since 1856 london provisional proof for barrels. English provincial makers marks uk rpl003 4 the style of the weapons bearing these marks indicates a date of around 1710 to 1720. A single letter, either roman or greek, upper or lower case, underlined or not. Ever since the computer problems a few weeks ago i can see the post but not the attached chart with the proof marks and years. Paris house st etienne house circa type of proof and gun since 1897 provisional proof unfinished short barreled guns 1897 standard proof for finished guns 1897 double. Most use their logo, while some combine their name and logo, or. Cip signatories proof marks, to include the marking for steel shot. Lli pietta, is stamped with a variety of markings italian proof house devices. The late bill ruger was a weapons designer in world war ii. Army and other security corps are reported to the police headquarters, even though such reporting is not required by the national laws. Rcmp poster of foreign proof marks this is a framed picture using a very old print done by the rcmp laboratories in edmonton. The proof master the gun barrel proof house banbury street birmingham b5 5rh united kingdom. I think the proof marks are those mentioned in my previous post as being applied compulsorily to already existing arms with the introduction of the first german proof laws in 1891. Most are black silhouettes, but some of those that have been produced from photographs have a quasi 3 dimensional appearance that requires the onlooker.
Proof the testfiring of a gun with an extraheavy load, at an official establishment, to verify the safety of a gun, which is then marked with formal stamps showing, among other things, the loads for which it is intended. Check out our list of the best ruger firearms highlighting the best ruger has to offer in the. Vienna provisional proof for multi barrel guns since 1891. F the rules, regulations and scales now in force under the principal act are the rules, regulations and scales which were approved by. Proof marks are usually found on the underside of the barrels, and if a gun has german proof marks and was made in 1892 or later, you know that the gun was proof tested in germany. Proof markscomparing the proof marks on your gun to this chart may help you determine where and when your gun was made, including guns where no other markings are evident. There are many more variations shown on prem183540 muskets, as there were a wide variety of contractors. Standard directory of proof marks pdf standard directory of proof marks g.
Moder modern black powder prn black powder proofmarksoofmarks. It is now one of the largest manufacturers of firearms in the united states. Multilateral convention for the reciprocal recognition of proof marks on small arms with regulations and annexes. The proof master the proof house 48 commercial road london e1 1lp united kingdom. Welcome thank you for visiting our online listing of manufacturers identifying marks, referred to more commonly as proof marks, arsenal or inspector marks. There are no load weights on the proof marks of my guns, so as this is a 70mm cartridge, would they be ok in a 70mm chambered gun.
The table below can be used to see if your gun was proofed in london or birmingham. More promising firearms designs combine 3dprinted components and assemblies. Proof marks these are stamped or impressed into a firearm by an official body to. Completely updated and expanded, this new edition of the official guide to gunmarks identifies manufacturers marks that appear on american and foreign pistols, rifles, and shotguns. As the uk is a signatory of the international proof commission cip, it recognises the proof marks of every other member state. For corroboration, crossreference with the proof house controllers mark. Gun shows are a good place to pawn off fakes and altered pieces. Over time powder has evolved and measurement methods and units has changed.
Because proof testing may or may not result in the destruction of the test specimen, it falls on the border between destructive testing and nondestructive testing. Higher velocity i assume means a bigger bang, so more strain on the breech of the gun. The shield shape in the first pic is the modern mark for leige in belgium and in the last pic it appears to be a stamp for superior proof not english make and nitro proof but a mix of european and english marks is a bit strange. There used to be a post here with the yearsproof marks on it. The nepalese gun marks national, corporate and unit marks, dates and numbers found on military stores.
In the case of wilding and farmer, the form of the stamps suggests that. Filecamp online pdf proofing and approval, 247 via your web browser. The white line look on hunting rifles is common in mauserland too. The only true inspection marks on american arms would be the proof marks on the barrel and stock flat. Alteration to or the forging of proof marks is a more serious offence. Proof mark circa proof house type of proof and gun since 1950 e. Remove unwanted marks under no circumstances may be applied. Proof masters in london and birmingham can be contacted at the addresses below. A proof mark is a mark specific to the manufacturer, importer, or testing facility that is performing the test. Any attachments you add to a pdf will move with it if you transfer the document to a new location or person. It will tell you the era when the gun was made and where.
The proof marks shown below will assist in determining nationality of manufacturers when no. Whether the marks were struck by the gunmakers themselves or at a private proof house, possibly in birmingham, is uncertain. Proofmarks are unique and allow definite identification and tracing of the country of import. Since my gun is in the 100xxx serial range, does this mean this gun was an export or a war reparations gun. He feels the only truly german built sig has the eaglen proof.
This is a discussion on proof marks and made in germany within the xseries, sport, mastershop pistols forums, part of the sig sauer pistols category. Britain has used two commonly found sets of proof marks. Luger proofacceptance mark identification guide 18981945. Army and other security corps are reported to the police. The following information comes from the book of the pistol and revolver by hugh b. The gun has 3 crowns one with bv another with np and the last bp,it also has nc41,grns 215 bullet,all this is on the breech end of the barrel.
For example, this means that a gun with belgian proof marks can be sold in the uk without being reproofed because belgium is a cip member. Proof correction marks based on bs 5261 part 2 instruction textual mark margin mark comment no corrections on this page none mark indicates that the page has been looked at. Other small arms and light weapons small arms survey. It was brought about by reputable gun makers in order to establish the safety and integrity of the firearms concerned, thus. The gun was made well before 1900, probably around 18601875 from the lefaucheux type opening mechanism and the damascus is true damascus. Proof mark circa proof house type of proof and gun 18681925 london definitive special super power proof for parabellum pistols 18681925 birmingham voluntary special black powder proof. Amongst proof marks are codes enabling one to determine the date of manufacture of many guns.
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